Wednesday, August 19, 2020

Vote by Mail in 2020

 

Vote by mail

 

Our discussion is in regard to this article from cnet.com:

 

Cnet article

 The poster and another friend both agreed that the article is ‘very balanced’ and ‘pretty factual’.  I disagree.  This article is fraudulent and biased.  Here’s what I see:

The author, Alfred Ng, begins with his opinion as the title.  Unless you think it through, you’ll assume he’s put a factual title on his opinion piece.  Don’t be fooled.

[Text from the article is in yellow]

 

The threat to vote by mail isn't fraud. It's disinformation and sabotage

Election officials say it's nearly impossible to commit voter fraud by mail. Getting people to doubt the legitimacy of the whole process is much easier.


Millions of Americans have voted by mail securely for more than 150 years, with fraud historically being so rare that election officials wouldn't even consider it significant enough to be a rounding error. But with the coronavirus pandemic pushing a record number of absentee ballot requests, President Donald Trump and his administration have attacked the time-tested system, claiming that it will lead to a chaotic Election Day outcome.

The last sentence in the above paragraph is false.  The President and his staff have not attacked the ‘time-tested system’.  They have attacked the plans of some states to mail ballots to every registered voter, not those who request an absentee ballot.  Those are two different systems of gathering votes, one of which has been and will continue to be used, while the new idea of governors like Phil Murphy of New Jersey (my home state) is to mail a ballot to every registered voter in the state.

 Since April, Trump has questioned the legitimacy of vote-by-mail on Twitter, saying it will "lead to massive corruption and fraud," without offering any evidence of what security flaws are present. Attorney General William Barr also claimed, in June, that voting by mail "opens the floodgates to fraud," also without any proof. 

My red highlights are also untruths the author states.  Check out this article:

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2020-08-19/trump-campaign-sues-new-jersey-over-hybrid-voting-model-for-2020-election

Trump Campaign Sues New Jersey Over Hybrid Voting Model for 2020 Election

New Jersey’s governor signed an executive order allowing residents to mail in a ballot or vote in person in the election.

Trump’s legal challenge offers the proof the writer of this article needs.  Since he’s a journalist, I won’t assume he didn’t see the US News article.  It’s his job to look things up.  I am taking an hour of my time to do this and I already have poked holes in his work…

 These attacks on mail-in voting aren't new, but they do come at a time when a record number of people in the US are expected to request absentee ballots because of the coronavirus pandemic. COVID-19 has killed more than 160,000 Americans, causing businesses to shut down to prevent the spread of the infectious disease; pushing people to keep their distance from each other; and leading children to attend school online or have their parties via webcam. Sending in your ballot is the next logical step when trying to stay safe. 

In Minnesota alone, the number of requests for mail-in ballots has risen more than 16 times, to roughly 470,000, according to Steve Simon, Minnesota's secretary of state, who doesn't buy into the concerns raised by the president.  

"It would be almost impossible to pull off voter fraud on a scale that would be required to tip the balance," Simon said. "We have vanishingly rare cases of voter misconduct. The security precautions in place have stood the test of time."

Nice quote from Democrat… maybe he’s biased against the President…  
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Mr. Ng spends most of the rest of his ‘article’ explaining how it would be impossible to vote fraudulently WITH ABSENTEE BALLOTS.  He completely ignores the issue of states like New Jersey and Arizona and Minnesota that want to expand voting by sending out millions of ballots.

 Now, back to the US News article:

New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy issued an executive order allowing residents to mail in a ballot or vote in person for the election due to the coronavirus pandemic. The order calls on officials to mail all registered voters in the state a ballot beginning Oct. 5 along with a prepaid return envelope.

The above is a screen capture from Wikipedia: 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_New_Jersey_gubernatorial_election

Total votes cast:  2,147,415

Turnout: 38.5%

Total registered voters: 5,461,540

Unused ballots:  3,314,125

Question:  What happens to the 61.5% of the ballots that are mailed but not used by the voters? 

Let’s assume that because of COVID, Mail-in voting, a presidential election, and many other reasons, that 50% of the electorate mail in their ballots.  That leaves 2,730,770 ballots in the hands of… who?

I have worked at several jobs in the last 20 years.  One of which was a floor measure technician for a branch of Home Depot.  I spent almost 6 years visiting about 12 homes a day all over North New Jersey.  Ranches, suburbs, urban apartments, public housing… you name it, I’ve seen it.  I measured almost 12,000 homes in that time.  Based on my observations of how mail is delivered, there would be no problem with traveling around to apartments in heavily populated neighborhoods and gathering up thousands of ballots.  I could then vote them, sign them, and mail them.  So they catch half.  I’ve still managed to vote 10,000 times for Trump. 

If it’s that easy for me to think of this, how hard will it be for political activists who spent all day on election day driving around the state gathering up people and taking them to vote?

You may not like it, and you can doubt the feasibility, but that’s my math and that’s why I don’t want ballots mailed out to every registered voter. 

BTW, I worked at the elections department in Siskiyou County, California in 1996, so I do have some experience.  And the state of voting in most places would be overwhelmed by vote by mail.

 

Finally, I found this article from fivethirtyeight.com, a left leaning site, which seems pretty honest, and also states that fraud is rare… but it’s always rare until it isn’t, and I don’t trust politicians who believe killing unborn children is a right.

538 article